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during the event. The specific projects and tasks, as well as the list of participants, are

described on this wiki and will be revised as the event draws near.

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The three main themes are:

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* Treated data format - developing a standard for multidimensional treated data and resolving issues that arise with the 1-d standard and its implementaion.

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* Standardisation - intercomparison of measurements and software for data reduction and analysis so as to assess experimental and intstrumental reliability

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* Development of a Global SAS web portal. This should be a general point of entry for the community to find information about small-angle scattering.

== Outcomes ==

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** Provide a plan for presentation at SAS 2012

* '''Standards'''

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** ~~Define purpose/~~goals

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** Purpose and goals: Intercomparison of data measured on the same sample with different instruments and different techniques (SAXS, SANS, light scattering etc.) can prove valuable in a number of ways. In particular it aids understanding of details of the experimental methods and it can help assess reliability. In a similar way, looking at results of data reduction or analysis generated with different software can provide valuable information about performance and verification of methodology. Specifically these activities should:

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*** ~~(e.g. QA~~/QC,

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*** Provide Quality Assurance/Quality Control,

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*** ~~improvement in~~ uncertainties of measurements in general,

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*** Improve (reduce) uncertainties of SAS measurements in general,

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*** ~~helping~~ each facility continuously improve

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*** Help each facility continuously improve performance and quality of data.

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*** etc.)

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** We will discuss what types of tests are interesting/important:

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** what types of tests are interesting/important

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*** Beam intensity standards - there are several different ways to quantify this

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*** ~~(e.g. beam~~ intensity standards - there are several different ways to quantify-

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*** Standards to test resolution

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*** ? resolution?

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*** Absolute intensity calibrations,

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*** ~~abs~~ intensity ~~calibration~~,

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*** Materials for Q calibration,

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*** Q calibration,

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*** etc. etc,

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*** etc. etc,

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** Some other related issues:

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** other ~~contribution~~ issues -

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*** Inelastic,

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*** ~~inelastic~~,

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*** Multiple scattering,

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*** ~~multiple~~ scattering,

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*** Wavelength contamination,

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*** ~~wavelength~~ contamination,

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*** Detector efficiencies at different wavelengths

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*** ~~detector~~ efficiencies at ~~diff~~ wavelengths ~~etc..;~~

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*** limits in signal to noise - how weak a signal can be reliable extracted;

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*** etc ~~etc etc)~~

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*** etc.

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** written plan ~~for~~ long term ~~sustaining of~~ effort

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** Outcomes needed are:

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*** ~~(assuming~~ “ad-hoc” projects ~~how to seed them~~,

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*** A written plan to sustain long term effort in this area

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*** how frequently~~, and~~

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*** This should describe how to seed, co-ordinate and publicise “ad-hoc” projects ,

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*** ~~how~~ to disseminate/share results including ~~“advertizing:” project~~

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*** Assess how frequently exercises can be undertakem

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** ~~Define~~ list of 2 or 3 projects to work on in the near term ~~including~~ plan of action and participants for each.

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*** Define good ways to disseminate/share results. This will including “advertising” projects and using them as input for other activities.

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** plan for presentation at SAS 2012 (~~could be~~ just ~~to announce~~ plan and see who wants to participate?)

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** We should aim to define a list of 2 or 3 projects for work in the near term. This should include a plan of action and participants for each.

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** We shoud have a plan for presentation at SAS 2012. (This might just be an announcement of the plan and see who wants to participate?.)

* '''Global SAS Web Portal'''

** define scope, purpose, and goal of portal

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=== Registration ===

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~~TBA~~

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Please inform Adrian Rennie of your intention to particpate and send details of your arrival and departure dates. You should book the accommodation directly with the hotel - see below.

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| Steve King

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| Tobias Richter

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| Lionel Porcar

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 during the event. The specific projects and tasks, as well as the list of participants, are
 described on this wiki and will be revised as the event draws near.
 == Outcomes ==
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 ** Provide a plan for presentation at SAS 2012
 * '''Standards'''
-** Define purpose/goals
+** Purpose and goals: Intercomparison of data measured on the same sample with different instruments and different techniques (SAXS, SANS, light scattering etc.) can prove valuable in a number of ways.  In particular it aids understanding of details of the experimental methods and it can help assess reliability.  In a similar way, looking at results of data reduction or analysis generated with different software can provide valuable information about performance and verification of methodology. Specifically these activities should:
-*** (e.g. QA/QC,
+*** Provide Quality Assurance/Quality Control,
-*** improvement in uncertainties of measurements in general,
+*** Improve (reduce) uncertainties of SAS measurements in general,
-*** helping each facility continuously improve
+*** Help each facility continuously improve performance and quality of data.
-*** etc.)
+** We will discuss what types of tests are interesting/important:
-** what types of tests are interesting/important
+***  Beam intensity standards - there are several different ways to quantify this
-*** (e.g. beam intensity standards - there are several different ways to quantify-
+***  Standards to test resolution
-*** ? resolution?
+***  Absolute intensity calibrations,
-*** abs intensity calibration,
+***  Materials for Q calibration,
-*** Q calibration,
+***  etc. etc,
-*** etc. etc,
+** Some other related issues:
-** other contribution issues -
+*** Inelastic,
-*** inelastic,
+*** Multiple scattering,
-*** multiple scattering,
+*** Wavelength contamination,
-*** wavelength contamination,
+*** Detector efficiencies at different wavelengths
-*** detector efficiencies at diff wavelengths etc..;
 *** limits in signal to noise - how weak a signal can be reliable extracted;
-*** etc etc etc)
+*** etc.
-** written plan for long term sustaining of effort
+** Outcomes needed are:
-*** (assuming “ad-hoc” projects how to seed them,
+*** A written plan to sustain long term effort in this area
-*** how frequently, and
+*** This should describe how to seed, co-ordinate and publicise “ad-hoc” projects ,
-*** how to disseminate/share results including “advertizing:” project
+*** Assess how frequently exercises can be undertakem
-** Define list of 2 or 3 projects to work on in the near term including plan of action and participants for each.
+*** Define good ways to disseminate/share results.  This will including “advertising” projects and using them as input for other activities.
-** plan for presentation at SAS 2012 (could be just to announce plan and see who wants to participate?)
+** We should aim to define a list of 2 or 3 projects for work  in the near term.  This should include a plan of action and participants for each.
 * '''Global SAS Web Portal'''
 ** define scope, purpose, and goal of portal
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 === Registration ===
-TBA
+Please inform Adrian Rennie of your intention to particpate and send details of your arrival and departure dates.  You should book the accommodation directly with the hotel - see below.
 === Hotel ===
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